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This is the fifteenth of a series of posters I designed for the Europarty Socialist Workers' Party, one that I forged in the NS region of European Union. To see other posters not posted on dA, click here -> [link]
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timhutch Featured By Owner Edited 3 days ago
This is just bull!  Art cannot exist is a communist or socialist society (both are the same).  Because all art must come from within the artist, and brought fourth freely.  So how can there be true art in a socialist or communist society when all art, music, movies, poems, novels and even stand up comedy must go through a government agency for approval first.  Remember the great novel Doctor Zhivago  by Boris Pasternak.  It had to be smuggled out to be printed.  Russia refused to allow it to be printed because it was not in line with Pro United Soviet Socialist Republic propaganda.  But lets take a good look at another great artist, Lindsey Stirling (check out her you tube channel) a true artist here in America, and no one of such talent exist in Russia or any other communist country, not because those countries do not have any talented artist, it is they are not allowed to be artist, everything an artist dose in a communist country must also bestow the virtues of communism.  True artist need true freedom to express themselves, if a government agency tells them what they can or cannot create, then it is not art.  And if an artist chooses to sell their work what is wrong with that?  When Ludwig Van Beethoven and Gioachino Rossini made money from their music, did that exempt them from being artist? 
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Schneerf Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Woah, didn't expect a big response to this piece like a year or two idk after I've made it. Let's get a couple bullets cleared first since you mention some interesting points.
1. I am alright with the artist benefiting from marketing their work, they should receive some form of compensation for their efforts when trying to sell their work. However I don't think that art should be reduced to monetized utilitarianism. Where art or lifeworks of individuals are are judged based upon how well they sold. That is a product of not just capitalism, but consumerism, artistic detachment, the progression of utilitarianism in general and materialism.
2. I am a center-left to left on the American political spectrum. I am for democratic socialism, not communism, nor fascism, nor fundamentalist republics, or any form of extreme versions of governments. That said, I think we can both agree that with even a few moments of research shows that the Soviet Union, under the Premiership of any of it's leaders for the most part, are not accurate representations of textbook "socialism" nor even communism. They established their own version of their interpretations of the ideologies just as America did of Enlightenment ideals mixed with that of democratic republics, lax domestic market laws, progressive concepts of civil liberties to name a few. It too was not textbook "republicanism" or any other single idea for a form of government. 
3. I agree that Soviet Union and even present day China, and you must admit the McDonald's corporation all work similarly in that they all despise those that speak out against them. Wanna Google something? Look into how many lawsuits Mickey's has gone into in shutting down anyone who tries to speak out against their unhealthy food in TV or even magazine advertisement. But I digress, I concur that it is easier for an artist to make something of their own design in most parts of the world, but their results will vary. It all depends on context and the nature of the work itself and the environment it takes place in. 
4. This piece I made never says that artists will only make significant cultural contributions in a "socialist environment". Only that it is not for capital, artists don't make art simply to make a dollar (in most cases, some do I know), they are artists because they have a message to say, otherwise they'd be businessman wearing suits if money was the only thing they desired. Art can flourish anywhere, but it should be made because it DESERVES to be made and presented for all to see, not because the artist cannot eat.

I hope that was a sufficient enough response, and thank you for appreciating my work ^^
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timhutch Featured By Owner Edited 1 day ago
Thank You for your response.  No I did not realize what your work was for, sorry I hope I did not offend. I will continue to look at your art, but I must say I am far right of the American political spectrum.  When I came across your art work I saw that you incorporated Soviet and Chinese symbols in you work (the red star and the hammer and sickle) I thought you were promoting socialism and communism.  I personally find anything bestowing the virtues of socialism and communism, grotesque (no offence meant or taken I hope, but it is how I feel).  Because while you believe that the two are different, I find no meaningful deference (an opinion I know).  Both require social ownership of the means of production.  That means taken something someone else built, so let me use the example of farms.  A farm that was purchased on the open market for so many dollars, by a family, they purchase equipment and seed, then they till the land, plant the seed, and the harvest the crops, and sell on the open market for "hopefully" a profit.  Under both democratic socialism and communism the farms will be seized by a government agency, the farmer will still work the land and harvest the crops (because some one will have to, if you want food to eat)and the crops will be dispersed among the citizens equally.  But not all work is equal, a farmer works seven days a week, sometime from sun up to sun down, (there is always something to do a on a farm).  But he will only be able to keep his share that is equal to a government bureaucrats share who does no real labor.  Think of the work a carpenter does, a diesel mechanic, a doctor.  Then think of what a bureaucrat or lazy people contribute.  But they will all get to same equal share of the farmers labor, but contribute less to society.  That is why capitalism, with a small government is the only fare way.  Because if the individual takes care of themselves there will be no need for redistribution, and each man or woman can reach as high and go as far as they want with what talent or skills they have.  Some will become famous for art or acting, some will be captain of industries, some will be second rate rock bands that somehow made millions. some will just be simple middle class workers and others will fall to the side.  But under capitalism everyone is free to try.  But no guarantee of out come.  Also under capitalism, if some one wants to be generous he is free to do so.  Earn a million dollars and give it all away, if that is what he wants capitalism gives him that freedom.
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andrewtodaro Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2014  Professional Artisan Crafter
YES Encourage Art! I'm an Art Major!
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
I actually agree with this (and I'm a left leaning centralist)
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
Then again, wonderful art can be produced for money. Such as the painting in the sixtine chapel, michelangelo's iconic masterpiece.
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Too true, when it benefits the artists themselves I am 100% behind that, but if it's more for the benefit of a licensing, regulatory, or other corporation that wants to OWN whatever the artist makes and give them a pittance whilst they the company reaps all the benefits, that's when I can haz problemz.
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Heck YES.
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This one is one of my personal favorites~ ^^
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I can see why.
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Yinai-185 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There is no argument, 100% Back this any day !!
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thaɴk you so much for your like/and support!
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Yinai-185 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hehe нę пpoбlęm :D Кompaди
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whateverman32 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Student Artist
Even as an Anti-Communist myself, i actually agree with this picture
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am not really Communist either, I affiliate myself with center to center left but Art is something for culture. But artists aren't as valuable as doctors, laborers and the such so society will expect them to thrive and make a living from their work just like everyone else.
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TheUniSquirrel Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
:)
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Stilgar27 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
Agree!
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! I hope you enjoy my other works as well!
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MarcN95 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
Very nice!
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!
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Endivie11 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
I like this one :D
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!
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bluessaurus Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's beautiful. :clap:
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you~!
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bluessaurus Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcome. :)
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CHAOSWITHUS Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012
really great-thanks for postin and fave
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It is my pleasure! I hope many of my works will be enjoyed by the CPDA!
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Alagremm Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012
To be honest, I prefer the original words better, even though they aren't quite correct.
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Schneerf Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well Cyrillic letters in general look more artistic I will admit that.
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